by Alexander Zephyr.
Part One.
In Criticism of the Great Scholar and Esteemed Ally of Brit-Am, Steven Collins.

Reactions to Part One.
Edward Anderson: Israelites to be Re-Gathered to Israel!
Jim Wright:
Huge Difference between The Day of The LORD
and the Gog/Magog Attempted Invasion!
Part Two.
Different Explanations as to the Identity of Gog.

Part Three.
'The Russian Theory'; The 'Caucasian Theory'; 'Hashemite Kingdom Theory'; The 'All Europe Theory'; 'Indo-European Theory'.

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by Alexander Zephyr.
Part One.

In Criticism of the Great Scholar and Esteemed Ally of Brit-Am, Steven Collins.

                    One of the best experts on the Jewish-Israelite movement, and particularly on the Gog and Magog wars of the prophet Ezekiel 38 and 39 is the Christian theologian, Biblical Scholar,  and esteemed author Steven M. Collins.
Mr. Collins provides excellent commentaries on a daily basis connecting the geopolitical events of the World with prophecies concerning the Wars of Gog and Magog.

          In his work, 'What Ezekiel 38-39 reveals about a future WWIII', the author begins with the analysis of the three prophecies of Ezekiel 37, 38 and 39. Chapter 37, Steven Collins says, contains two separate prophecies, called 'Dry bones' and 'Two sticks', and the Chapters 38 and 39 consist of one prophecy of  a future War of Gog and Magog. All three prophecies have distinct subject matters, different time-settings, and chronologically do not link together with each other.

          In his opinion, the 'Dry bones' prophecy of Ezekiel 37:1-14 concerns the resurrection of the 'whole house of Israel' which will occur one thousand years after the advent of Messiah.

          Another distinct prophecy of the same Chapter 37:15-28, 'Two sticks' prophecy, is a prediction of  the complete and final reunification of all Tribes of Jacob under leadership of a resurrected King David which is going to occur at the beginning of the Messianic Age.

          Concerning the third prophecy of Ezekiel 38 and 39, the War of Gog and Magog, he came up with a very bold and well argumented theory, basically saying that this war begins at the earlier stage of the redemption, 'in the latter years', at the end of our current age, prior to the reunification of the whole house of Jacob and advent of the Messiah, before the Messianic Age begins.

Steven Collins says:
# All three prophecies are not chronologically sequential, they are in three different 'Biblical ages', and they are written in reverse time order: Gog and Magog war, reunification of 'Two sticks', and general mass resurrection of the 'Dry bones' (with the interval of one thousand years). #

           The geographical target of attach of the armies of  Gog  will not be the Land of Israel, where the modern 'tiny' Jewish state presently exists (Zephaniah 2:6-10), but rather the countries of the West Europe, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zeeland and other territories, where the so called  'Lost Ten Tribes of Israel' in exile are residing. S. Collins identifies Gog as a chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, leader of Russia, and the 'land of Magog' as the region of Asia which is within the modern territory of Southern Russia.

        'Gomer and all his bands' become the most populous nation of China. 'Togarmah of the north quarters and all his bands' he interprets as being a group of people closely related to the Chinese ethnically and located to the north of China's mainland: Mongolia, Siberia, Manchuria and North Korea. All of this is in accordance with his statement that Japheth's descendants were found in the Oriental regions of Asia. From what the Bible reveals, concluded S. Collins, it will be an alliance of Russia, China and Iran along with other former Communist or East-bloc nations and radical Islamic countries in South-Central Asia and North Africa.

          In his explanation as to why the target of Gog's attack will be the countries of the West, North America, and NATO, rather than the Jewish state in the Land of Israel, S. Collins pointed out that there is no recollection of  Judah in the prophecies of Ezekiel 38 and 39 as, for instance, in Zechariah 12 and 14. When God speaks of Judah, he means the Jewish nation, the modern Israelis; and when God speaks of Israel, He means the Ten Tribes of Israel in exile. Therefore, since Judah and Israel will not yet have been reunited and will live separately in different parts of the World as distinct entities, and the only the name of Israel is written in the prophecies of Ezekiel, it means that the subject of Gog's attack will be the countries, where the Ten Tribes of Israel live. The Prophecy is therefore primarily directed at the modern nations of the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh which are Great Britain and the USA.

          Quite an interesting explanation is given by the author  on the matter of  the 'Mountains of Israel' which in the Scriptures are positively connected with the Land of Israel on multiple occasions.

          God said to Gog:
'After many days you shall be visited: in the latter years you shall come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely, all of them.'  (Ezekiel 38:8).

         In the opinion of S. Collins, the 'Mountains of Israel' can not possibly be the Israeli nation for two reasons: (1) they are not high enough to be true mountains and (2) they have most assuredly not been 'always waste.' But if one flies over the Rocky Mountains of North America, it could be seen how high they are and there is no sign of human habitation over much of their expanse. So, the 'Mountains of Israel' in Ezekiel prophecies  describe 'North America, not the Israeli nation.'

          The nation which is 'brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people', continues the author, is the United States of America, 'the melting pot' nation.

          How does he explain away such a descriptions of Israel's condition as 'they shall dwell safely, all of them' (Verse 8); or 'dwelling without the walls and having neither bars nor gates' (Verse 11)?

          Well, he said, after winning the Cold War, Western nations of the house of Israel implemented the rapid disarmament which dramatically reduced military forces and their capabilities. 'By accident or design, the East Bloc nations have, by 'loosing' the Cold War, succeeded in weakening the West's defense of its own homelands.' It certainly does not make one to believe that 'Israel will dwell safely, all of them'!

          And what about the Arab countries? Will they take part in Gog's alliance against Israel?  Mr. Collins thinks that there are two possibilities:
Since Ezekiel 38:2-6 states clearly that the attacking evil alliance of Gog and Magog will include 'bands' and 'many people' who are not named, it allows the possibility that the Arab nations will be allied with Russia, China and Iran.

The second possibility, is that the Arabs are the descendants of Abraham, of the same Semitic stock as the Israelites; they 'have a great deal of oil wealth and are closely link to America, Great Britain and the Western nations via economical and commercial ties' and through the democratic values planted by America and the West in countries like Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon, etc.; plus 'the fact that Iran (Persia, historical enemy of the Arabs) is allied to Russia, can also be a reason why the Arabs would NOT be part of the Russia-Chinese-Iran alliance.'

          Another participant in Gog's bloody attack against the nations of Israel is Esau, son of Isaac, the oldest brother of Jacob, whom the Bible named Edom. S. Collins believes that the descendants of Esau through his oldest son Teman (Genesis 36:34) become the Ottoman Empire, the modern day Republic of Turkey, because 'the consonants of Teman and Ottoman are identical.' Turkey is a member of NATO and, as such, is allied to the West and Europe.

          'However, there is one branch of Edomites family called Amalekites, which historically is intensely hostile to Israel; they likely will be allied with the armies of Gog and Magog at the end of this age.'

          Mr. Collins concluded that, since from Abraham are descended the Semitic and Caucasian nations, and the prophecy of Ezekiel 38 and 39 does not mentione a single Semitic nation in the attacking alliance of  Gog's armies, 'it allows the possibility (another one'!) that all modern nations, descended from Abraham, will be on the same side' with Israel.

          This, in short, is the theory of S. Collins theory concerning the War of  Gog and Magog war as described in Ezekiel 38 and 39.

Do we agree with his ideas?

Regarding some aspects of his thoughts, Yes; but for key points of his theory, we do not.

See Part Two.

Reactions to Part One:

Edward Anderson:

Israelites to be Re-Gathered to Israel!

Dear Yair,   In regards to Mr. Collins "teachings" on the coming "Gog-Magog War" I would like to add some insights of my own that I've discovered studying this subject a few years ago. First of all, the area equated with Gog and Magog has been identified as belonging to Turkey and it's  related peoples, not Russia. Walid Shoebat gives an excellent expose on this in his great work "God's War On Terror" that I recommend everyone read. 

The Russians are related to the Slovakians,  and Polish people, AKA Slavs i.e. slaves. They were deposited there by the Vikings when the coasts of Britain, Ireland, Scotland, Spain, and most of Europe were invaded by  them and captured people, mostly blonde, redheads, and brunette women and were sold to the Tartars as slaves. These were the Oriental masters of Russia for over  two hundred years until there was enough Slavic people able to throw off their slavery to the Mongols.  If one would properly compare  this war with Gog in Ezekiel 38 and 39 to the other prophecies that state that  at the return of  Messiah, "ALL" nations are to be gathered against Jerusalem to battle, not the few listed in Ezekiel 38 & 39. THIS "key" seems to be overlooked by most prophecy "experts"!!! ONLY those tribes/bands of people from the Turkey area and northern Africa  are listed as coming against Israel in Ezekel's vision,  not "ALL nations."

Egypt is not mentioned, Saudi Arabia is not mentioned, Jordan is not mentioned, in fact, you'll noticed most of the  descendants of Ishmael  are not listed in this war. The reason I believe is because this war in Ezekiel occurs at the END of the Messianic Age.

Is. 19 is clearly a Messianic vision as Egypt comes to worship [The ALMIGHTY] at the beginning of the Messianic age. That is WHY these people in Israel are at rest and have neither bars nor gates to protect them because they have been protected by the power of Messiah as per Zechariah's prophecies and the many other Prophets that mention a Messianic Age in Scripture.  The 2 houses of Israel are to be brought back together at the BEGINNING of the Messianic Age, with David and the Saints resurrected and ruling over the Kingdom of Israel as per Daniel's prophecies. The "mountains of Israel" ARE located  IN Israel Proper  because that is where Messiah and the regathered Tribes are located.

Ezekiel Ch. 20 makes it very clear that the Tribes are NOT going to stay in their present locations around the world where they have been scattered. That is another section of prophecy that the "experts" refuse to look at. The tribes are to be regathered BACK to Israel and it is Israel that has suffered devastation time and time again. Even the famous American journalist,  Mark Twain, went there and marvelled how forsaken and desolate Israel was even in the late 1800's when he visited the area. The temple is to be rebuilt, the wealth of the nations are to flow to Jerusalem, and the land is to become like the Garden of Eden. So there WILL be a lot of "spoil" for these  heathen people to want to invade the land of Israel. ...Ezekiel 38 & 39 have to do with Israel, the land of Israel, and the time shortly AFTER the Messianic age.  

Jim Wright:

Huge Difference between The Day of The LORD and the Gog/Magog Attempted Invasion!

Hi Yair -
I strongly disagree that the prophecies in Ezekiel are not in chronological order - at least until chapter 40 they are in order.
Starting in chapter 30 there is "The Day of The LORD" - this is what we are on the brink of:

Ezekiel 30
2.  Son of man, prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord God; Howl ye, Woe worth the day!
3.  For the day is near, even the day of the Lord is near, a cloudy day; it shall be the time of the heathen.  
The invasion and defeat of Judah during The Day of The LORD is shown in the Book of Joel.
When Judah and Israel fall to the assault of the heathen nations as punishment for not serving The LORD correctly and making treaties with with the heathens.
Israel falls first then Judah cannot stand alone:
 Hosea 5:
 3.  I know Ephraim, and Israel is not hid from me: for now, O Ephraim, thou
committest whoredom, and Israel is defiled.
 4.  They will not frame their doings to turn unto their God: for the spirit of
whoredoms is in the midst of them, and they have not known the Lord.
 5.  And the pride of Israel doth testify to his face: therefore shall Israel and Ephraim fall in their iniquity: Judah also shall fall with them.   

And then there is the punishment The LORD deals out to the nations which have attacked Israel and Judah in Ezekiel chapters 30 - 33.
Then there is the denunciation of the false Prophets of Israel (not Judah) in Ezekiel chapter 34.
In Ezekiel chapter 35 The LORD denounces the primary enemy of Israel and Judah - the Edomites.
Then The LORD returns and the first resurrection takes place.
In Ezekiel chapters 36 + 37 is the second resurrection and the rejoining of Israel and Judah.
Then at the end of the 1000 year rule of [the ALMIGHTY] over the Earth is the Gog Magog invasion, unlike during The Day of The LORD, Gog and Magog are totally defeated by The LORD and they do no harm to reunited Israel.
Starting in Ezekiel chapter 40 things do backtrack and we are given details of The LORD rule during the 1000 years - all the way to the end of Ezekiel in chapter 48.
There is only one Gog / Magog attempted invasion, and they do no harm.
The same cannot be said of the heathen nations which attack during The Time of Jacob's Trouble - right before The Day of The LORD - they succeed in destroying Israel and Judah.
There is a huge difference between The Day of The LORD and the Gog/Magog attempted invasion.
Many Blessings -
Jim Wright

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