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The Great Tartan Disputation. Rounds Four and Five. TG Makes a Come-Back!
The Great Tartan Disputation. TG Makes a Come-Back! Rounds Four and Five.
We are continuing our Disputation with TG. Below are Rounds Four and Five.
The Points of contention concern the subject matter of our article Joseph and the Scottish Tartan.
Round Four is Below.
Round Five is Below that.
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TG Makes a Come-Back!
Round Four
TG said:
Yair, I just about pointed your nose to the true meaning of the 
  term Ktonet Passim , and you, instead of THINKING, and putting your 
  preconceptions aside chose to attack me.
Brit-Am Replies:
You are so obnoxious that I had no 
choice, TG.
TG said:
  Rashi was making a very profound and deep statement when he said what he said,
Brit-Am Replies:
More mysticism?
TG said:
but assumed two things...the reader was thinking, and was 
  knowledgeable in Talmud. You are neither.
  NO other sources are required.
  I am not going to tell you the answer.
  I'm done with this subject, and will pick another when I have the time and 
  inclination :)
  By the way, I'd be most interested to find out which academics write to you, 
  and what they write about :)
Brit-Am Replies:
Why would that interest you TG?
They ask questions, TG. The same as you do.
If you had to write something serious about 
cotonet
pasim 
you would use the sources we gave you and propose something similar to what we 
said.
TG said:
And, how dare you claim to use Hebrew sources after that decision 
  to use NKJV?
Brit-Am Replies:
The 
NKJV 
is an English translation, TG, for English-speakers.
Round Five
TG said:
you think I'm obnoxious, because I know I'm right :)
Brit-Am Replies:
What exactly are you right about, TG?
Do you yourself know?
TG said:
There is NO mysticism in the Torah
Brit-Am Replies:
There is mysticism in the Torah but
that 
is not what we are discussing.
Nothing you said was Torah but there certainly was something very mysterious 
about what you meant to say.
TG said:
I bet the academics that write tell you what a joke your entire 
  theory is....but, you made it sound like you are respectful :)
Brit-Am Replies:
Respectful or not, TG, we provide 
knowledge.
TG wrote:
  I know what ktonet passim means, and it has nothing to do with 
  tartans.
Brit-Am Replies:
TG if you know so much why do you not 
reveal it?
TG said:
 However, I am not going to reveal it to you because you do not 
  have yirat Shamayim [the Fear of Heaven].
Brit-Am Replies:
Sorry TG. We are not all at your level.
TG said:
  People who think there is mysticism in the Torah are deluded due to faulty 
  learning, and usually not really learning Torah at all. They usually seek 
  short-cuts to 'spirituality' that are not there.
Brit-Am Replies:
We know there is mysticism in the Torah 
but we did not refer to it.
You are the one who keeps making mystical statements speaking of deeper meanings 
etc.
The Sages advised against making references to matter that one cannot explain.
TG said:
You do not provide knowledge. You provide some people, yourself 
  included, with what they want to hear.
Brit-Am Replies:
That is open to debate.
We give what exists. Some people want to hear the truth and that is what we give 
them.
TG said:
  What happened is that you stumbled onto something, but then went off the 
  derekh [pathway] following pronouncements by Christians that are completely 
  baseless, either in Torah, secular evidence, or even simple logic. And, after 
  all these years, decades, you have so convinced yourself that you are right, 
  that you are incapable of questioning your 'research', as you would had you 
  received any education that involved basic research methodologies. Worst of 
  all, you are not open to criticism, and show no critical thinking.
Brit-Am Replies:
What "pronouncements by Christians" are 
you referring to? There is no such thing. Even if there was (but there is not) 
such a phenomenon that in itself would not necessarily make it wrong.
TG said:
  This is why you think I'm obnoxious. I have tried to tell you this in the 
  strongest terms I thought appropriate, but you ignored me, and instead 
  attacked and insulted me in public.
Brit-Am Replies:
I think you are obnoxious, TG, because you 
are offensive, insulting, and criminally irresponsible in your statements.
We may have insulted you in public as you claim but only under your pseudonym. 
TG is not your real name and not even the actual initials of your name.
You, on the other hand, said worse things about our humble poor benighted selves 
and we published them.
TG said:
  Have you ever considered the damage you may have done with your 'revelations'?
Brit-Am Replies:
Brit-Am has done much good in many, many 
ways.
TG said:
 Lets assume for a minute that you are completely right. What is 
  your purpose? How does it reflect what HaShem wants? 
Brit-Am Replies:
First of all it is the truth.
There is great value in publishing the truth.
This truth affects a great many people who deserve to know it.
You asked,
# How does it reflect what 
HaShem 
wants? #
How does anyone really know what is wanted?
One does what one can according to the insights that have been given.
The Almighty reveals HIMSELF in the Bible. HE wants the good of the Israelite 
Nation meaning both Judah and the Ten Tribes of Israel.
 The Ten Tribes of Israel will return and be redeemed.
This is the will of God.
The knowledge as to who the Ten Tribes really are may be a preliminary step in 
this direction.
Continued in Round Six.
The Great Tartan Disputation
Contents:
Introduction
Round One.
Round Two.
Round Three.
Round Four. See Above
Round Five. See Above
Round Six.
Discussion and Queries.
 
Joseph and the Scottish Tartan
Contents:
Detailed List of Contents
1. Introduction. 
2. The Term.
3. Tartan Type Patterns and the Area of Ancient Israel
4. David Rohl, Joseph, and Tartan Cloak.
5. Scottish Tartan and the Temple Garments.
6. Tartan in Ancient Times.
7. Tartan from the British Isles in Masada, of Judah.
8. Tartan in Scotland
9. Tartan in Ireland
10. Tartan in Ulster
Part One. Welcome to Ulster.
Part Two: Titanic Tartans and Clifford Smyth.
The Great Tartan Disputation.
Discussion and Queries.
 
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