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Brit-Am Now no. 1483
The Lost Ten Tribes of Israel Movement
24 March 2010, 9 Nissan 5770
Contents:
1. Polemics: Brit-Am Topples Topless TOP
2. Cecil: Is the USA Finished?
3. Renka: Source of Information Requested re Predicted 2017 Islamic Attack
4. Are the Two Messiahs Both Destined to Ride on Equids?
5. Israel is destined to Conquer the World!


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1. Polemics: Brit-Am Topples Topless TOP
Article published not long ago and only recently up-graded:
Brit-Am Topples Topless TOP
http://www.britam.org/top.html
Extract:
We (i.e. Brit-Am, the Lost Ten Tribes Movement, and its membership) need to strengthen our own knowledge on our subject matter and in Biblical Learning.
If we learn the truth and present it coherently eventually we will be heard.



2. Cecil: Is the USA Finished?
Brit-Am Now no. 1481
#2. Jennie Schmidt: Future Prospects' 
http://www.britam.org/now2/1481Now.html#Jennie

Hi Yair,

I agree with most of what Jennie Schmidt has written and have much more solid information on the total destruction of the USA.

Because of homosexuality, murdering the unborn, loving animals, hating God, hating the Bible and voting such people, who are Communists, Moslems etc, into the most important positions in the US Government; God will destroy the land He blessed beyond measure. The same as He did with Israel of old when they did the same things. BUT Israel of today is solid proof of our God remembering His promise to the Land and His people. When the rest of the world is in ashes there will always be Israel!

He will also provide a way for all His people, who obey His command to leave their countries (not just the USA), to be taken care of.

I have known, watched and recorded the evil downward spiral of events within the USA for over 41 years. The satanic take over by willing US and God hating citizens has brought us to where it is impossible to correct. The Lord has written "Finished" across United States, few have believed me, but that doesn't change anything.

Cecil



3. Renka: Source of Information Requested re Predicted 2017 Islamic Attack
Re: Brit-Am Now no. 1482
#1. Brian Patmore: Vikings Blocked Roman Escape Route'
http://www.britam.org/now2/1482Now.html#Brian
Yair,
Where did this information come from that was posted by Brian Patmore:

# Many extremist Islamic leaders have stated that 2017 will be their year to attack Israel and the Israelite nations, but their treachery will be paid many times over by the Almighty, should they take this unfortunate course of action. #



4. Are the Two Messiahs Both Destined to Ride on Equids?
Bert Lorenz wrote:
 

Hello Yair,

In your opinion is Genesis 49:11 related to Zechariah 9:9'  It appears that two
donkeys (young and old) are mentioned in both books.  Genesis has two vines and
Zechariah references two daughters.  In Genesis the two vines could be
describing how Judah attaches to MBJ and MBD.  In Zechariah, Jerusalem was
destroyed and Zion at the end-times is permanent.  Does the Hebrew language
allow for the translation of kings or just king in Zechariah'

Your expertise is appreciated.
Bert

Genesis 49:11
Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass's colt unto the choice vine; he
washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes:

Zechariah 9:9
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy
King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding
upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.





Brit-Am Reply:
First of all in Zechariah 9:9 the Hebrew for "thy King" is in the singular.
Your idea that the double play on words "an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass" actually refers to two Messiahs is interesting.
It is also perhaps supported by the next verse that recalls both Judah and Ephraim,

Zechariah 9:10

I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim
      And the horse from Jerusalem;
      The battle bow shall be cut off.
      He shall speak peace to the nations;
      His dominion shall be 'from sea to sea,
      And from the River to the ends of the earth.'

As for your suggestion that both Messiah son of Joseph and Messiah son of David are referred to I looked through some of the Commentaries.
One Midrashic type source says two Saviors are indeed being referenced but it says that the first Messiah was Moses and the second one will be the Messiah son of David. Nevertheless it is interesting to see that the general line of thought is the same as your own and that your proposed construction is evidently consistent with the text.

Apart from that a few commentaries (surprisingly for me) linked the passage in general to BOTH Messiah son of Joseph and Messiah son of David but they seemed to associate the expression, # riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass #  solely to Messiah son of David.

For a List of Linked Brit-Am Articles dealing with the Messiah Son of Joseph see:
Messiah
http://www.britam.org/ContentsSubject.html#Messiah
Contents:
David: Questions and Answers
David and the Oral Law
Messiah son of Joseph
Messiah son of Joseph in Jewish Sources
Messiah Son of Joseph and Manasseh
Moshiach ben Yoseph
The Two Messiahs
"Messiah Son of David in the Bible".




5. Israel is destined to Conquer the World!
In connection to a recent discussion  we came across the remark on the expression
# His dominion shall be from sea to sea # (Zechariah 9:10) linked to the Blessing:
#  BE FRUITFUL, AND MULTIPLY, AND REPLENISH THE EARTH, AND SUBDUE IT [Genesis 1:28]. For they [the Children of Israel] are destined  to conquer the whole world as it is written, "His dominion shall be from sea to sea" (Zechariah 9:10) [ Midrash Breishit Rabati page 7, source: M.Z Stern, "Torah shel Baal Peh" on Zechariah 9].

Nevertheless,
Maimonides ("Laws of Kings and their Wars" 12.4) said:
# The Prophets and Sages did not yearn for the Messianic Era in order to rule over all the world; and not to govern the Gentiles;  and not so that the nations should elevate them; and not in order to eat, drink and be happy; but rather in order to be free to learn the Torah...#

Note that Maimonides (Rambam) does not say that Israel will not conquer the world and rule over the nations but rather that the Sages did not yearn for the Messianic Era in order to do so. In addition Maimonides here is referring to the Sages of Judah in a specific context and not necessarily to all Israel.




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