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Ten out of the Twelve Tribes of Israel were exiled and lost their identity.
Their descendants are now to be found amongst Western Peoples. This is proven from the Bible, Talmud,
and Rabbinical Sources as well as from Secular Studies in Ancient History, Archaeology, Mythology,
Linguistics, and related fields. It would be expected that DNA studies also reflect ancestral links between the Gentile
(in the religious sense) Peoples in question and their Jewish kinfolk. DNA should also show that the Israelite Nations
of Judah and the Ten Tribes may be traced back to the Middle East Area of Ancient Israel.
In the notes, comments, and articles listed below we give an inkling of the issues involved and the complexity of the subject.
DNA (especially mtDNA) is determined by a combination of both environment and heredity. To what proportion of either
determinant may characteristics at a particular stage be attributed is not known.
Nevertheless, even relying only on what has been published and accepting conventional explanations, valid
ancestral links between the Israelite Nations and the area of Ancient Israel may be shown to exist.
This in itself may not proof anything but it does add to the general plausibility of what Brit-Am believes in.
Brit-Am Anthropology and DNA Update
11 July 2011, 9 Tammuz 5771
1. DNA Substantiates Brit-Am!
New Study Admits:
Most Probable that R1b came to Europe after 1000 BCE!!!
2. Henry Rhea: Admittedly Brit-Am Has a Point!
3. Many Anglo-Saxons have Similar DNA to Dutch and North Germans!
1. DNA Substantiates Brit-Am!
New Study Admits:
Most Probable that R1b came to Europe after 1000 BCE!!!
R1b is the major
in Western Europe.
The paper below considers different mathematical possibilities for the spread of
R1b across Europe.
These estimates are based on the rate of mutation of R1b as we know it today.
The simplest and most straight-forward possibility appears to be that R1b became
dominant in Europe after ca. 1000
so long ago such a suggestion would not be countenanced. It would have been
considered to negate known history etc.
Since however recent DNA archaeological findings seem to indicate a lack of R1b
before 1000 BCE (or later) then it is closer to being accepted!!!
This accords with Brit-Am claims from the very beginning.
Brit-Am Claims are:
A. History. Most of the population of
Western Europe came there after ca. 700 BCE.
This applies to BOTH Israelites and non-Israelites.
These new findings saying that R1b only came to Europe after ca. 1000 BCE affirm
B. DNA. The DNA Imprint is initiated by
environmental factors and then continued with constant moderations via physical
DNA may therefore be used to trace ancestry and migrations etc but only up to
the point of initial imprinting. It could also be that DNA may drastically
On this point we are still fighting but wait and see.
R1b1b2 in Europe dating rethink
Wave-of-Advance Models of the Diffusion of the Y Chromosome Haplogroup R1b1b2 in
Per Sjodin1*, Olivier Francois2
1 Department of Evolutionary Biology, Evolutionary Biology Centre, Uppsala
University, Norbyvagen, Uppsala, Sweden, 2 University Joseph Fourier Grenoble,
Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique, TIMC-IMAG UMR 5525, Mathematical
and Computational Biology, Grenoble, France
Whether or not the spread of agriculture in Europe was accompanied by movements
of people is a long-standing question in archeology and anthropology, which has
been frequently addressed with the help of population genetic data. Estimates on
dates of expansion and geographic origins obtained from genetic data are however
sensitive to the calibration of mutation rates and to the mathematical models
used to perform inference. For instance, recent data on the Y chromosome
R1b1b2 (M269) have either suggested a Neolithic origin for European paternal
lineages or a more ancient Paleolithic origin depending on the calibration of Y-STR
mutation rates. Here we examine the date of expansion and the geographic origin
of hgR1b1b2 considering two current estimates of mutation rates in a total of
fourteen realistic wave-of-advance models. We report that a range expansion
dating to the Paleolithic is unlikely to explain the observed geographical
distribution of microsatellite
diversity, and that whether the data is informative with respect to the spread
of agriculture in Europe depends on the mutation rate assumption in a critical
Citation: Sjodin P, Francois O (2011) Wave-of-Advance Models of the Diffusion of
the Y Chromosome
Haplogroup R1b1b2 in Europe. PLoS ONE 6(6): e21592.
Editor: Carles Lalueza-Fox, Institut de Biologia Evolutiva - Universitat Pompeu
Received: March 3, 2011; Accepted: June 3, 2011; Published: June 24, 2011
Wave-of-advance models with a
recent expansion date received higher support than models of Neolithic expansion
(Table 2, Figures 2'3).
We found it difficult to discriminate among models assuming
(Neolithic expansion) and models assuming
(Recent expansion). An interpretation of our results is as support for the use
of the correction proposed by
Zhivotovsky et al ,  in
wave-of-advance models. Historical events consistent with recent expansions from
the south of Europe during the Bronze age  or the Greek and Roman
civilization in Europe and West Asia  cannot be excluded, but the impact of
such demographic events on European genomes requires confirmation from ancient
26 June 2011 - 06:42 AM
If I read the Sjodin et al. paper correctly, the authors are comparing a
possible arrival of R1b 10,000 years ago ("neolithic") with an arrival 3,000
years ago. By 8,000 BC, the neolithic was still far from reaching the shores of
Europe, while 1,000 BC seems a bit late for a full population exchange in
Western Europe. With this parameterization, it's unlikely that their modelling
can provide us with any relevant insight anyway.
2. Henry Rhea: Admittedly
Brit-Am Has a Point!
#1. Reply to Henry Rhea re the Lack of R1b in Ancient Europe.
You raise some good points for further study, particularly concerning the
possibility of the scarcity of actual ancient dna samples. It may be that I
have been assuming that there are far more known R1b samples from ancient
specimens than actually exist. I am currently trying to find out if that is
in fact the case.
In the meantime, something of which I was not aware until I began searching
for more information on this subject and which you may already be aware of,
did you know that the Discovery Channel aired a program some time back in
which it revealed certain facts about King Tutankhaman's dna from tests to
lead some knowledgeable observers to conclude that Tut and his male parental
line were R1b1b2, apparently, and as such related to Basques as well as others
of Europe today' The question has been raised in connection with that as to
whether the samples could have been contaminated, but it seems as though the
royal line of Egypt at least during that period were of R1b stock. Here is
one link, and there are others:
As some point out, so too were the Berbers of Northwest Africa, and ancient
Egypt was invaded by them and Libyans.
This is of course just one more piece of our ancient puzzle.
I've just begun viewing the YouTube video linked in the first post of the
discussion I just sent the link to, and had to stop it just underway to send
you this. Take a look at that video! It looks like it is well worth seeing!
The DNA test for King Tut showed he was R1b. We reported on this in the past.
#5. More Remarks Concerning the R1b1b2 DNA of Tutankhamen and Family
#2. King Tutankahem and the Now Western DNA R1b1b2
It is however worth mentioning that these findings have not yet been confirmed.
We do not know if the test really was carried out on the mummy.
The Egyptians refuse to allow further testing.
3. Many Anglo-Saxons have Similar DNA to
Dutch and North Germans!
Forget two world wars and one
World Cup... geneticists reveal 50 per cent of Britons are GERMAN
Shared gene stems from Germanic tribesmen who first came ashore on the Kent
coast in 449AD
Up to 200,000 believed to have crossed the North Sea to Britain, pillaging and
raping after Romans left
By ALLAN HALL
It may come as a shock to those fond of quoting a world cup triumph and the
outcome of two wars as signs of British superiority.
Scientists say that around half of Britons have German blood coursing through
Anybody who paid attention in their history lessons knows that tribes from
northern Europe invaded Britain after the Romans left in around 410AD.
But research by leading geneticists reveals the extent to which the Germans
became part of the nation's racial mix.
Together with archaeologists who have spent years on sites in the UK, they
conclude that 50 per cent of us have some German blood.
Biologists at University College in
London studied a segment of the Y chromosome that appears in almost all Danish
and northern German men ' and found it surprisingly common in Great Britain.
Analysis of tooth enamel and bones found in Anglo-Saxon cemeteries
supported these results.
WHO WERE HENGIST AND HORSA?
Hengist and Horsa were two Germanic brothers who arrived on the south-east
corner of England in 449 AD.
They are credited with leading the Angle, Saxon and Jutish armies that first
conquered the Celts.
The siblings were called to Britain by the Celtic King Vortigem to defend his
people against enemies including the Picts.
For their services, they were given the island of Thanet to live on.
However, following a series of falling-outs with the locals, they gradually came
to own more and more land that eventually became known as the Kingdom of Kent.
Indeed, Hengist is traditionally named as the founder of the Kingdom of Kent.
German archeologist Heinrich Haerke believes 'up to 200,000 emigrants' crossed
the North Sea, pillaging and raping and eventually settling.
The native Celts, softened by years of peace under the Romans, were no match for
the raiding parties from across the North Sea.
Pottery and jewellery similar to that found in grave sites along the Elbe River
in northern Germany has been unearthed in Anglo-Saxon cemeteries here.
There is also evidence the settlers remained in contact with relatives on the
Continent for up to three generations.
Anglo-Saxon is a catch-all phrase to refer to the invaders of the fifth and
sixth centuries AD.
Angles came from the southern part of the Danish peninsula and gave their name
to England and the Saxons came from the north German plain.
There were other tribes ' such as the Jutes, from Jutland, who settled in Kent.
The Anglo-Saxons drove the Britons into Cornwall, Wales and the North, but a few
centuries later faced waves of invaders themselves ' Vikings from Scandinavia
and then the Normans in 1066.
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