Brit-Am Now"-321
November 14, 2003
1. Query on respect for leaders
2. Cyrus and the USA
3. US Presidents on Israel
4. USA, UK, and Israel = A Special Relationship
1. Query on respect for leaders
S wrote:
Re: Brit-Am Now"-320
>Re: Respect of leaders (i.e. politicians and princes)
>Hi Yair,
>Read this article....
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>By Valerie Richardson
>THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Answer:
OK. Point taken.
"Respect" does not mean unconditional deference only an a priori attitude 
all other things being equal.
We would probably be amongst the first not to defer to temporal authority 
when necessary.
Similarly when one is sick one should usually listen to the doctor  unless 
it becomes apparent that the doctor is wrong as can sometimes happen.
2. Cyrus and the USA
In our book "Joseph" we quoted from Isaiah 44:28 and 45:1 and the 
sections  around them concerning Cyrus.
Isaiah in these sections speaks of Cyrus in connection with Israel and 
Cush (translated as Ethiopia but probably in this case meaning India) and 
Mitsrayim (translated as Egypt). In our books and also in our
Biblical Proofs Nos. 31, 32, 33: Egypt, Africa, and India
we showed how the future of the Lost Ten Tribes involved an historical 
domination of India, Egypt, and the passage of slaves from Africa being brought in chains to the 
homeland of the Ten Tribes.
Since these situations did occur with Britain and America and only in 
such a way with them then this
was additional evidence that the Ten tribes were in Britain and America.
The mention of Cyrus was explained in several ways:
Isaiah used the figure of Cyrus as a prototype.
Isaiah switched from Cyrus to Israel in the same verse as may be seen 
in the text, in the Hebrew original, and according to the explanation of the sages.
Another explanation is that The historical Cyrus in Isaiah serves as a figure representing the 
Messiah son of Joseph and the Ten Tribes in general. This explanation is born out from a work 
written more than 200 years ago recording the opinion of Eliyahu of Vilna who is considered 
one  of the greatest Rabbinical sages who ever lived.
We can go into all this in more detail at another time and show the 
Biblical connections, etc.
For the moment the following extracts concerning President Truman who 
supported the establishment of the State of Israel are of interest.
Cyrus = President Truman?
(a) Extract 1.
http://www.nationalreview.com/kopel/kopel031803.asp
David Koppel: Religious Fright
In the latest issue of Books & Culture, a Christian book review 
monthly,  Gerald McDermott details the role of Truman's Southern Baptist faith in 
his Israel policy. While mainline Protestants (with some important 
exceptions, such as Schlesinger's friend Reinhold Niebuhr) tended to disparage 
Zionist hopes for a Jewish state, religious conservatives (a group that 
included people like Truman who were not necessarily political conservatives) 
rejoiced in Zionist aspirations as the fulfillment of prophecy and the 
just restoration of the Jewish homeland which God had promised the Jews by sacred covenant.
Only hours after the declaration of the State of Israel, President 
Truman overrode the objections of the State Department and the War Department, 
and made the United States the first nation to grant recognition to Israel. 
Truman used American clout to convince the U.N. to recognize Israel, 
too. When ceasefire lines were being drawn after the failed Arab war to 
exterminate the Jews, Truman insisted that Israel have the Negev, which 
more than doubled Israel's territory. Israelis believed that without 
Truman they would not have survived.
As recounted in the Second Book of Chronicles, in the 6th century B.C. 
the Jewish kingdom was conquered by the Babylonian Empire, the Temple was 
destroyed, and the Jews were carried into Babylonian captivity. Half a 
century later, the Babylonian Empire was overthrown by the Persian 
Empire of Cyrus the Great. Cyrus allowed the Jews to return to their holy land:
In the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, in order to fulfill the word 
of the LORD spoken by Jeremiah, the LORD moved the heart of Cyrus king of 
Persia to make a proclamation throughout his realm and to put it in 
writing: "This is what Cyrus king of Persia says: 'The LORD , the God 
of heaven, has given me all the kingdoms of the earth and he has appointed 
me to build a temple for him at Jerusalem in Judah. Anyone of his people 
among you may the LORD his God be with him, and let him go up.'"
Paul Charles Merkley's book, The Politics of Christian Zionism: 
1891-1948, describes a meeting in 1949, at the end of Truman's presidency, between 
Truman and the chief rabbi of Israel:
The rabbi went on to assert: "God put you in your mother's womb so you 
would be the instrument to bring about Israel's rebirth after two 
thousand years." We are told by a witness that, "On hearing these words, Truman 
rose from his chair and, with great emotion, tears glistening in his eyes, 
he turned to the Chief Rabbi and asked him if his actions for the sake of 
the Jewish people were indeed to be interpreted thus and the hand of the 
Almighty was in the matter."
A few months later, retired President Truman was honored at the Jewish 
Theological Seminary. One of Truman's friends introduced him to the 
professors as "the man who helped create the State of Israel."
Truman said, "What do you mean 'helped to create'? I am Cyrus. I am Cyrus."
(b) Extract 2.
http://www.hist.net/kieser/mak6/verdict.html
"Conclusion: The Verdict of History"
Polowetzky, Michael,  Jerusalem recovered : Victorian intellectuals and 
the birth of Modern Zionism, Westport (Conn.): Praeger, 1995,
Moshe Davis has left us record of a visit which Harry Truman made a few 
months after the end of his Presidency to the Jewish Theological 
Seminary, together with Truman's friend, Eddie Jacobson. Jacobson introduced 
Harry Truman to the professors: 'This is the man who helped create the State 
of Israel', but Truman corrected him: 'What do you mean "helped to 
create"? am Cyrus. I am Cyrus.'
It seems that the analogy to Cyrus had already been suggested to 
President Truman by the Chief Rabbi of Israel, Isaac Halevi Herzog, on the 
occasion of a visit to him in the White House early in 1949. The rabbi went on 
to assert: 'God put you in your mother's womb so you would be the 
instrument to bring about Israel's rebirth after two thousand years.' We are told 
by a witness that, 'On hearing these words, Truman rose from his chair and, 
with great emotion, tears glistening in his eyes, he turned to the Chief 
Rabbi and asked him if his actions for the sake of the Jewish people were 
indeed to be interpreted thus and the hand of the Almighty was in the matter'.
These words of Truman's - 'I am Cyrus' - were uttered neither casually 
nor ironically. We must take them with the fullest seriousness, and when we 
do, we will have the key to understanding Truman's constant proZionism.
Harry Truman frequently turned over the name of 'Cyrus the Great' as he 
rehearsed the names of the 'Great Men of History'- a mental exercise 
which he performed regularly, as a concert pianist performs scales. The 
American democratic process, he knew, had put him in the place where Cyrus 
redivivus was expected. His awareness of all this is what explains the 
consistency of his refusal to allow himself to be worn down by the emotional and 
sometimes brutal arguments of the Zionists, fully as much as it explains his 
serenity in the face of the arguments from anti-Zionist Jews, the pro-Arab 
blandishments coming from the State Department, the 'realistic' 
military judgements coming from George Marshall and George Kennan, and the 
economic-geopolitical arguments of James Forrestal.
To doubt his personal fitness for this great role would have been the 
same as to doubt the fitness of the American political system which had put 
him in place. To set his own name at the end of that long catalogue of the 
Great Men (in which Cyrus always figured) was not, he believed, an act 
of vanity, but a requirement of fidelity to received religion and to his 
own selfconfidence as a student of history.
  3. US Presidents on Israel
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/US-Israel/presquote.html
4. USA, UK, and Israel = A Special Relationship
http://www.shalem.org.il/oren/book.doc
"The United States has a special relationship with Israel comparable 
only to that which it has with Britain" , he  [President John F. Kennedy] 
told Foreign Minister Meir; "I think it is quite clear that in the case of 
invasion the United States would come to the support of Israel." 
Kennedy quote from Foreign Relations of the United States 18, 1961-1963, pp. 280-81.
Brit-Am Note: Some people may not like Kennedy due to his alleged 
personal life, etc, but
he was President and as such was able to give voice to sentiments and 
truth beyond himself.
5. Biblical Proofs  nos 41-111. Names: Reuben
PEOPLES OF REUBEN
REUBEN:
Rahabbanai in northeast Syrian Israel according to Ptolemy's Map;
Rabeans in the Mari correspondence, associated with the Banu/Maru 
Jaminas 
of Benjamin in Biblical times in Northern Syria
Rhabbanai (east Scythia).
Ribuari (Franks),
Rubi (Franks),
CLANS OF REUBEN:
Chanoch = Chauci, Hugo (Franks, Saxons).
  Palui (Phalui) = Falia (Phalia in Germany whence the Franks invaded 
Gaul)
Chetsroni = Chassuari (Franks), Istaevones (Sicambri-Franks).
Carmi = Carmania (in southern Iran), Crimea (Scythia), Carini (Franks 
in 
Gaul).
  Gog (a clan of Reuben) = Gogarene (Iberia in Caucasus), Gog (state in 
Scythia north of Tibet), name of Goths and of the Lost Ten Tribes in 
popular traditions.
Nemuel - Nemetes of Gaul
  Attributes of the names:
Reuben See a Son: Pride. Innate quality of the firstborn requesting 
pre-eminence.
Chanoch:  Education, Ceremony.
Palui: Wonderment, High Quality, Sophistication, Exclusivity
Chestron: Courtyard, Ownership, Peasant-Noble orientation
Carmi: Vineyard (the best wines are said to come from France)
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