"Brit-Am Now"-246

May 21, 2003

Contents:
1.  Poll concerning Identity Awareness
2. Question on Rahab and her children
3. A Few Historical Points

1.  Poll concerning Identity Awareness
http://www.e-thepeople.org/poll/7593/view?s_a=res

David Ben-Ariel took a poll through the web via the above URL. 61 people
participated and most had not heard of us though some had. Food for Thought.

[[]Have you ever heard of this Israelite "Identity Doctrine" (ID) before?
If so, from what source? (61 votes)
(David Ben-Ariel, 5/4/03)
[]
Yair Davidy's books or Jewish sources.3 %
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The US & Britiain in Prophecy by HWA2 %
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Racist groups who abuse our ID2 %
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It's all new to me!93 %
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Total Votes:  61
[][]
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[]Brit-Am Israel
Brit-Am Israel is headed by Israeli author Yair Davidy and by Rabbi Avraham
Feld: both are Orthodox Jews. Brit-Am Israel (the Covenant People/Nation
Israel) believes:

* The Hebrew Bible is the message of God.

* Out of the original 12 Tribes of Israel Ten were lost. Two remained. The
present-day Jews are descended mainly from the two remaining Tribes of
Judah and Benjamin.

* The Khazars were a Kingdom in southern Russia, many of whose leaders
converted to Judaism. The Khazars were descended from the Lost Ten Tribes.
The Khazars were blood-relatives of the Picts who went to Scotland, and of
the Anglo-Saxons, and of peoples in Scandinavia.

* In addition to the Khazars, many other converts to Judaism through the
ages were descended from assimilated Jews or from members of the Lost Ten
Tribes.

* Most of the Lost Ten Tribes migrated to Northwest and Western Europe and
their descendants are now in those areas or in North America, Australia,
New Zealand, and South Africa.

* We do not claim that all residents of the said nations are descended from
Israel. We do however affirm that most descendants of the Lost Ten Tribes
are residents in those nations. On the whole they are unaware of their
Israelite Identity. Even so, in the course of history the Israelite origins
of peoples in those areas have influenced national developments and
national characteristics.

* The Tribe of Joseph was divided into two other Tribes: Ephraim and
Menasseh. People from ALL of the Israelite Tribes congregated in North
America, but in general the U.S.A. is dominated by Menasseh. Britain has
characteristics of Ephraim.

* Reuben was important in France, Issachar in Switzerland, Benjamin in
Belgium, Zebulon in Holland, Dan in Denmark, Naphtali in Norway, Gad in
Sweden, the country of Finland was influenced by the Tribes of Simeon,
Issachar and Gad; Simeon, Dan and Ephraim were important in Ireland.

* There is a need for present-day "Jews" of Judah and the Lost Ten Tribes
to recognize each other, and to work towards reunification and reconciliation.

* Proof exists confirming "Brit-Am Israel" Identity beliefs. Some of the
evidence has been presented in works by Yair Davidy, such as "The Tribes"
(1993), "Ephraim" (1995), and "Lost Israelite Identity" (1996), as well as
in articles in our journal "Tribesman." Much additional evidence is
available and needs to be uncovered and published. Our sources include the
Bible, Talmud, Midrashim, Commentators, Classical Greek and Roman
historians, Chroniclers, Legends, Linguistics, Archaeology, and where
pertinent, racial and other scientific studies.

* Even though much of the evidence has been revealed by ourselves, it is
not ours alone. Our proofs have never been properly refuted. The basic
claims we have made are irrefutable. If one cannot deny our claims and
there is nobody else who can, it follows that one should accept them. This
means that the identity of the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel with western
peoples should be acknowledged. Once this acknowledgment is forthcoming it
is possible to discuss whatever practical conclusions need to be made.

If you are interested in learning more, in discussion, and/or in joining
"Brit-Am Israel," please contact us at:
 britam@netvision.net.il or write to
Yair Davidiy
POB 595, Jerusalem 91004, Israel

This poll is not scientific and reflects the opinions of only those
Internet users who have chosen to participate. The results cannot be
assumed to represent the opinions of Internet users in general, nor the
public as a whole.

2. Question on Rahab and her children
  Drsyke@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 5/19/2003 2:46:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>britam@netvision.net.il writes:
>
>>[Joshua 2:16] AND SHE SAID UNTO THEM, GET YOU TO THE MOUNTAIN, LEST THE
>>PURSUERS MEET YOU; AND HIDE YOURSELVES THERE THREE DAYS, UNTIL THE PURSUERS
>>BE RETURNED: AND AFTERWARD MAY YE GO YOUR WAY.

>>According to tradition Rahab had been forced into prostitution by her own
>>people at the age of ten. For forty years she worked in the profession.
>>When the spies arrived the spirit of prophecy came over her. She assisted
>>them, saved herself and her family, converted and became an Israelite and
>>married a Prince of Israel and bore children. Eight prophets and one
>>prophetess of Israel were descended from this woman.
>
>
>8 children statrting at age 50?

No. She had children (according to the sages) after the age of 50: This is
unusual but does sometimes happen.
The number of children is not stated. From the descendants of these
children over the course of time emerged the prophets. This is a tradition
 it is not Scripture nor is it law. According to our understanding, It should be
respected but does not necessarily in every case have to be taken as literally true.
Even so, in our studies we have come across frequent occurrences where  such
traditions appear to be histotically justified.


3. A Few Historical Points

In J. HARMATTA, ("Prolegomena. In the Sources on the History of Pre-

Islamic Asia," Budapest 1979) there is an article concerning a group of
Gimiri (Cimmerians or Scythians) who settled in Mesopotamia.

The Gimiri could be either Cimmerians or Scythians since the same term was

usually applied to both.

The Babylonians ALWAYS referred to the Scythians as Gimiri.

In Assyrian records the Scythians emerged from the Cimmerian ranks and are
referred to as Cimmerians more often than they are referred to as Ishguzi,
or Ashkuza, or other such names. One king of a combined band of Cimmerians,
Sakae, and Gutae was referred to by the Assyrians as King of the Amuru
meaning King of the People of Israel.

According to Harmatta, The rank and file of the Gimirri bear Aramaic names
while the leaders have Iranian ones. The period in question was that of
Persian rule and there may have been a reason for the leadership to adopt
Iranian names.

This information should be considered in conjunction with Pliny saying that
the original name of the Scythians was "Arameos, i.e. Aram. The Land of
Israel could be considered part of Aram (Syria in our terms). The
Israelites were also sometimes referred to as Aramaeans and before their
exile some Israelite Tribes east of the Jordan and also in the Jordan
Valley (Manasseh) spoke Aramaic. In the Land of Sacae (Scythians) east of
the Caspian Sea inscriptions in Aramaic have been found and Aramaic is
considered to have been the lingua franca of the region.

In the 600s BCE the Scythians became predominant in the steppe area of
Scythia. They did not eat pork even though the peoples who dwelt in that
region before them had kept pigs. They also had an aversion to images. Some
of their namesakes are Hebraic. We know that cult in the Scythian city of
Tanais worshipped Joseph and associated him with Aspergus their mythical
ancestor. Later legends identify the Scythians with the Lost Ten Tribes of
Israel.

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