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Brit-Am Now no. 1379
The Lost Ten Tribes of Israel Movement
17 August 2009, 27 Av 5769
1. Cam Rea:
World Domination by Scythian Descendants Foretold in Indian Text?
Israelites, and the Present by Merle Nelson
3. Michelle Bowie: An Alternative definition of Jewish
1. Cam Rea: World Domination by Scythian
Descendants Foretold in Indian Text?
From: Cam Rea <email@example.com>
Shalom Mr. Davidiy.
I found something of interest in the ancient India text:
Sakas after Kurukshetra War
A passage which is rendered as a futuristic prediction in Mahabharata mentions
thus:- The Andhhas, the Sakas, the Pulindas, the Yavanas, the Kamvojas, the
Valhikas and the Abhiras, will then become possessed of bravery and the
sovereignty of the whole earth (3:187).
Old British Israel writings also mention references to the Isle of Britian in
Hindu sacred writings.
This could be worth following up on.
On the other hand, the texts in question are often claimed to be based on
sources dating back thousands of years
whereas in fact they were only recorded in their present form in ca the 1800s
This was the period of British Predominance in India and some degree of
deliberate retro-projection should be suspected.
We are not suggesting that this may be some kind of British inspired insertion
but rather that
Hindu Sages themselves may have (or perhaps did not?) re-interpreted the
traditions in the light of
the reality of their own age.
If this was so it could be EVEN MORE INTERESTING!
Did the Indians recognize an identity between the Scythians Sakas,Yavanas,
Abhiras, etc, and the British?
We already have Arab Sources (based on Jewish Traditions) that in effect locate
the Lost Ten Tribes in Britain,
France, and the West.
See our articles:
Aed and Israel
The Lost Tribes in Celtic and Arabic Lore
THE ISLES OF THE WEST
THE ARABIAN CONNECTION
THE SONS OF MOSES
Israelites, and the Present by Merle Nelson
From: M N <firstname.lastname@example.org>
My following comments are taken from information obtained from the book by
George Rawlinson titled 'The Sixth Great Oriental Monarchy '.
Introduction: Those scholars/students who write and continue to investigate the
subject of the scattered Tribes of Israel have used various applications to
track and identify . Sometimes the connections are very clear and stand out and
other times challenge the extension of your logic. Unquestionably, the approach
is well proven .
The extent of the investigation shows that America originated with the Tribes
of Israel and this is well documented by Y. Davidiy and S. Collins and others.
Their efforts have been refined to the point of identifying the particular
tribes that can be found in various geographical areas including the United
While reading the account of the coming demise of Parthia in chapter XXI , I
could not help but see an interesting connection with the present background of
our country today. Using the same techniques of tracing and matching historical
accounts , the following comments will identify another possible relationship on
this subject of the 'lost ' 10 Tribes.
The constitution of Parthia settled by Mithridates I established two bodies
which were: 1) The Royal House: Here was found the males of the house of the
Arsacides. All kings were elected from this group of males who came from a
single linage. According to the authors mentioned above , this linage was from
the House of Judah . 2) The Senate: Two groups of ruling officials comprised
this body ; the 'wise men' and the Magi/Priests.
These bodies together had a superior role over the reigning monarch in the sense
of 'check and balances'. The very detailed powers of these bodies are not well
defined but it appears that the 'wise men' were considered qualified to provide
the king counsel ( liken to the President's Chief of Staff/czars) and the Magi
had the privilege of playing a superior role due to their wealthy status, great
numbers, and more importantly probably because of they were considered to be
descendants of a priestly class. Discounting the priestly heritage, there is
similarity here of what we have today in that several government people who have
come from various power structures backed by great wealth and have the respect
by others to the extent that this lends itself for them to walk on the edge of
legality , many times crossing over that line with no challenge while exercising
their official powers and even abusing such in their personal affairs.
About a decade before the complete fall of Parthia , there became a feud between
two ruling kings. This division continued for some years which meant the two
governing bodies must have become less important in regard to their official
role. Although one king was dominate, each had kingship over different areas of
the empire. The feud was so intense that Rome took delight in their internal
strife. This was shown by the Roman Emperor actually congratulating the Senate
for achieving such a state. Rome recognize only one man as King of Parthia and
that was Artabanus.
Ultimately, the Romans and Parthia fought a battle that lasted for three days
. The dead were piled so high it became difficult to fight over them . No
numbers were stated of the men involved but considering the likeness of other
battles between the two powers it must have been in the tens of thousands. They
both prepared over the winter months - amassing weapons, equipment and men .
The picture of this event leaves us with an horrible image- the bodies , and the
debris of weapons, etc..
Persia was a large and subjected nation under the Parthia regime. They were
given impunity and favored in some areas so it becomes hard to establish a
single reason for them to revolt . With Parthia very weaken by the battles with
Rome , it seemed the right time for Persia to expand itself and break from under
the Parthian yoke. G. Rawlinson records that the Magi lost their influence at
this time which leads to the suspicion of how orderly the government was and if
it was accountable at all to the subject nations. He notes further that there
was dissensions in the Royal House. The eventual take over by Persia indicates
the chaos that must have prevailed in Parthia. The Persians swung into action
and only after considerable gains by Persia did Parthia finally react. When
they did defend themselves , they suffered defeat and the lost of the King ,
Artabanus. A few years later the final blow was struck and Parthia was no more.
Connections With Today:
The above is a brief account of the events as described , in large part, by G.
Rawlinson, a 19th century historian.
The premise for any relationship of those times with America is that this
country does indeed consist of the tribes of Israel. In addition, it is
necessary to recognize that the Nation of Parthia was comprised mostly of the
exiled tribes of Israel and were ruled by the Arsacides who were from the House
Relationship for Today:
The Nation of Israel when it was divided by [the ALMIGHTY] lasted about 200
years before it was exiled. ( 921-721 BCD) . The Nation of Parthia existed
for approximately 480 years ( 256 BCE - 224 CE) . To seek any correlation with
the U.S. , a match could be made in two ways-- 1) 2009-1776 ~ 232 years, 2) If
you consider when Columbus came over , then 2009 - 1492 ~ 516 years. Thus you
have a loose connection of time duration with the existence of the U.S. and the
countries of Israel and Parthia.
The following briefly characterizes and summarizes the state of affairs of
Parthia upon its demise. Internal decay developed with the ruling class of
Arsacids because of dissension. Such state of affairs consumed the governing
body's energy and attention . Foreign elements had their sway upon them. Such
activities without doubt had a demoralizing effect upon the military . The
subject nations lost confidence and loyalty as they witnessed the debilitating
development of the hierarchy. The success of Persia was not because of its
military might for Parthia still held a vast number of soldiery from its
subjects. Parthia just didn't have the fortitude for any aggression. An
indication of the attitude of Parthia can be found as early as 58 CE when
Hyrcania succeeded without any reaction from Parthia.
This country has displayed a lack of willingness to maintain its hold on world
affairs. It has been slow to respond to crisis. We gave back the Panama
canal. We were tardy in entering WW2. So just as Parthia lost its control over
extended providences , so we relinquished holdings. Islands were given back to
Japan after the war. Now , this country has slowly developed into a split of
opinions that carry a deep resentment between factions. This can be found on
many levels. Political parties lead the way and instigate measures that give
impetus to instability . Although attention is still given to military matters
outside the country, the growing dissension within is bringing the country to a
consuming frenzy that has to have consequences to come. Certainly our
financial status started its decline in 1973 when we left the gold standard and
our debt has escalated to alarming levels. We now have potential programs being
implemented that will take this to levels that will seriously affect our
financial stability and accountability to other nations. Such were the general
traits of Parthia upon its later days. Of course the fine details are different
but the characteristics of the background is the same. This country still has a
military might that is the best but the question is becoming more valid as to
our willingness to press forward when outside powers show a growing move against
us. Given that these connections are valid at such time periods of the two
nations- U.S. and Parthia, it is time for us who are TORAH minded to take notice
with a greater awareness.
Is this the preamble to Ezekiel 37 : 14-28?
3. Michelle Bowie: An Alternative
definition of Jewish
Re: Brit-Am Now no. 1378
In response to:
#1. Question on the Mistaken Use of the term "Jew" for Ten Tribe Israelites
Wouldn't it be more accurate to state that "Jews" are by definition, those of
Israelite heritage who Follow Torah, study Talmud and Oral Law and are raised as
such from childhood?
That there are those of Judah, Benjamin and Levi who have no idea that they are
Israelite and most likely are Christians so have not been raised in the religion
of Judaism, orthodox or otherwise.
This to me seems to be more defining and less confusing.
Shalom, michelle b.
#The term Jew/Judean means someone
belonging to Judah which was the southern Kingdom ruled over [by] the House of
This definition is correct historically.
We could extend the definition according to your parameters by saying:
"Jews" are by definition, those of Israelite heritage who are obligated to
Follow Torah to its fullest extent as commanded by Moses and explained by
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