Movement of the Lost Ten Tribes
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Can you please send me your sources for your Gomer link to Scandia, thank you.
Before moving to Europe Gomer son of Japhet was to be found in the Middle East. Regions attributed to Gomer son of Japhet in Midrashic and related sources are also those attributed to the Lost Ten Tribes.
The Book of Hosea indicates a union of the exiled northern Israelites with Gomer.
We may therefore assume some type of geographical association between Gomer of Japhet and Gomer of Israel.
Rabbi Eliyahu of Vilna as interpreted by Shlomoh Koslavski, ("Va-Asher Tovanah Yagidu", Jerusalem, 5764) used a system that would have placed Gomer in Scandinavia or in Northern Europe in general and Magog to the south of Gomer. On the other hand Rabbi Eliyahu of Vilan understood the Talmud as identifying Gomer with Germany.
On the whole the sources incline to identify Gomer in our time as descriptive of "Celtic" and "Germanic" peoples.
...regarding the polemic argument regarding two messias as against one messiah with various roles to fulfill.
Can you refer me to some where where I can read the various arguments ?
No real arguments exist. Just opinions.
Concerning the Messiah son of Joseph if you make a web search you will come up with many options. Some of them might actually be helpful. We tried it out some time ago and did not find much but things change and also maybe we did not look well enough? Everyone has their off-days with other days that go very well indeed.
Your best bet is, as far as we know,
To get a an idea of the Jewish Perspective on Messiah son of Joseph, see:
Yedid Nefesh. Kol HaTor
To get a an idea of the Jewish Perspective on Messiah son of Joseph, see the list of relevant Brit-Am articles:
Joseph - The Israelite Destiny of America
"Joseph. The Israelite Destiny of America" quotes from the book "Kol HaTor" (The Voice of the Turteldove") and from other sources concerning the Messiah son of Joseph. These extracts are discussed and their relevance demonstrated. "Joseph. The Israelite Destiny of America" was the first work to show the pertinence of "Kol HaTor" to these studies and is still the ONLY work that adequately does so!
We do not claim to be great experts on this particular subject but we seem to the only ones who have written on it from the perspective of what Rabbinical Commentaries wrote.
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