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"Brit-Am Now"-781
Contents:
1. Francis Hynds Irish Confusion
2. William Rasmussen: "B'nai Menashe" furor an Opportunity?
3. Ezra Stiles - An Early American believer in Israelite Origins?
4. Succot - Taking it Easy
5.  New Controversial Claims about British Origins
6. Surname Distribution in the British Isles
7. Frisian Legends
8. Cecil Davis: Lost Ten Tribes in South America?
9. Reflections on Finland

1. Francis Hynds Irish Confusion
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 19:52:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Francishynds@aol.com
Subject: Re: "Brit-Am Now"-780

The item in regard to Dal Riada is somewhat lacking in observational accuracy in relation to the ancient kingdom between Ulster & Scotland, furthermore it ignores the archeological evidence of the same by presenting a false premise of Irishness, to its credit however, it does mention the oldest known peoples on the island of Ireland - the Cruthin.  We all will be lost again if we embrace the popular 'celtic view' that before the land of Scots was formed, so-called Ireland was one distinct unit of common-bond people.  A great amount of time had passed for the known identities to be recorded, and not all of them existed there at the same time, never mind being one group ethically.  The modern view however is just that to advance the gaelic/celtic myth for present day political reasons of what some would describe as conquest.  Imagine one saying exactly the same concerning the land of Israel, (in simple form) the palistinians always lived there, Israelis moved in, and now Jews occupy it.  To the educated observer, we all know this is nonsence.

It is of the utmost importance to  underline that the so-called celts & gaels were linguistic groups, not racial, there impact on the archeological history of the island of Ireland is exaggerated and false for the reasons of present day religious and political appeasement.  The former are not recorded in the British Ilses till around 500BC, the gaels around the turn of the common era.  The Cruthin are dated by their monuments over two thousand years before them.

By far for the advancement of Brit-am is the fact that the earliest (Cruthinic) sites have astounding similarities of middle-east origin, this has been noted by countless scholars over the years, furthermore, the probable decendents use at times in Ulster-Scots a germanic tongue of words displaying their history westward travelling with the Assyrians (Germans) to the then end of the world.  All these human observations can be researched and found.

In prophetic terms by this a part of the lost tribes can maybe be found, heading back east as written towards the homeland, firstly to Scotland, giving it their Roman name, and eventually to what we all hope for!  For the modern-day (Irish) gaels who want to consume the Cruthinic-Ulster-Scots, supported by Roman intention, show a flaw in prophetic deliverance, if not, then the celts and gaels are exactly what they say they are by knowing their identity, the descendants of the labelled Cruthin are still lost just trying to find their way home!

Brit-Am Comment: As we noted in "Lost Israelite Identity"
and as we hopefully will be able to more strongly emphasize in a coming work
most of the "monuments" you speak of date from well after 600-500 BCE
and so too do MOST of the British Isles Population arrivals.

Assuming that the Cruthin are the same as the Picts we tend to date their arrival
as coming AFTER that of the others.
We also tend to see the differences in that area as motivated by religion
that is exploited by a minority that indeed needs examination.
The whole question needs study and thinking through since both sides have contributed to the
Israelite entity and both sometimes reveal themselves
to be lacking.
There are indications that both part of the Irish faction and the House of
Cromwell who were their adversaries had the same origins??

2. William Rasmussen: "B'nai Menashe" furor an Opportunity?
From: William Rasmussen <brasshalom@yahoo.com>
Subject: Shalom from Bill Rasmussen-article from Jerusalem Post about B'nai Menashe

Yair, there is quite an interesting article in the Jerusalem Post concerning the B'nai Menashe.  It is titled Right On: A miracle of biblical proportions
By MICHAEL FREUND http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1159193360806&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

The article discusses the B'nai Menashe of Manipur.  While I disagree about  the findings that this is where the B'nai Menashe settled, the article is interesting in that it seems to be fomenting interest in the Lost tribes.  There is a chance to post one's comments, which I did.  I mentioned you by name and the website.  Hopefully, we will be able to attract some more attention to Brit Am.  I would also encourage other Brit Am members to read the article and post a comment as well in favor of Brit Am.

Shalom, Bill Rasmussen

3. Ezra Stiles - An Early American believer in Israelite Origins?
Ezra Stiles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Stiles
The United States elevated to Glory and Honor (1783)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_United_States_elevated_to_Glory_and_Honor
Haim Isaac Carigal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haim_Isaac_Carigal

4. Succot - Taking it Easy
This week is the Festival of Succot so we are taking it
easy and only operating at a minimal level.
Answers to serious questions, letters, other issues, etc are being postponed.

5.  New Controversial Claims about British Origins
Stephen Oppenheimer: Myths of British Ancestry
Prospect Magazine
http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=7817

6. Surname Distribution in the British Isles
http://www.spatial-literacy.org/UCLnames/Surnames.aspx

7. Frisian Legends
Question:
Dear Yair,

you write in some of your articles:

"According to Frisian-legends a certain King Adel was a descendant of Shem. King Adel in India had three sons: Friso, Bruno, and Saxo."

Can you give me the source of this legend that speaks of Frisians coming from India and descending from Shem?

Sincerely,
Ilkka Olander

Answer:
I am not sure where you took the quote from.
The legends in effect say that the Frisians and Anglo-Saxons were brother Israelites
who from the Land of Israel went to a region in Central Asia (mistakenly referred to
as "India") before moving westward.
These legends and the background to them are discussed in detail in our
book "The Tribes" chapter 22.

Here are the sources:
Mr. Fred J. KOESLAG of Gouda, Holland, sent me the following information that he obtained from a book ("Freische Mythen en Sagen" by J.P. WIESMA, 1973) about Old Frisian legends.
This information supplements other sources such as that of Jean Francoise LE PETIT ("Le Grande Chronicle Ancienne et Moderne de Holland, Zeelande, Utrecht, Frise,  Oversyseel; et de Groenungham", Dordrecht, 1601). The book of Le Petit is written in a dialect of Old French and a copy is to be found in the Rare Books section of the National Library in Jerusalem. Le Petit relates the history of peoples who settled in the Netherlands.

8. Cecil Davis: Lost Ten tribes in South America?
Hi Yair,

Have you seen this?

I have underlined something below that reminds me of the white skinned fierce warriors of the Ten Lost Tribes. I certainly believe they voyaged to North and South America long before anyone else thought about it.

We had our first evening of Succoth with friends in their Succa--very good food and fellowship. I noticed today that Ra'anana restaurants have Succas in front of their stores so people can eat in them. Also the City has a large one at a nice corner where people gather each morning to talk and enjoy the cool shade.

Your friend,

Cecil

Mummies of 'cloud warriors' tribe found in Peruvian cave

By Daniel Howden


Published: 07 October 2006

Archaeologists in Peru have discovered an underground burial vault that could unlock the mystery of a pre-Colombian tribe known as the "warriors of the clouds".

The Chachapoyas commanded a vast kingdom stretching across the Andes to the fringe of Peru's northern Amazon jungle until they were conquered by the Incas in the 15th century.

The Incan empire was itself overrun soon after by the Spanish, and details of the Chachapoyas and their way of life were lost or destroyed in the widespread pillaging that followed.

Now a team of archaeologists, working on a tip-off from a local farmer, have uncovered a burial site in a 820ft-deep cave. The researchers have so far found five mummies, two of which are intact with skin and hair, as well as ceramics, textiles and wall paintings, the expedition's leader, Herman Corbera, told Reuters.

"This is a discovery of transcendental importance. We have found these five mummies but there could be many more," Mr Corbera said. "We think this is the first time any kind of underground burial site this size has been found belonging to Chachapoyas or other cultures in the region."

The tribe's own name is unknown. The word Chachapoyas is thought to come from the Quechua for "cloud people", and is the name by which they were known to the Incas, because of the cloud forests they inhabited in what is now northern Peru. A white-skinned people who were famed as ferocious fighters, the Chachapoyas held out against the Incans, who ruled an empire stretching from southern Chile to northern Ecuador until their conquest by the Spanish.

Today, the Cloud People are best known for their stone citadel, Kuelap, with more than 400 buildings and massive exterior stone walls, which is often referred to as the Machu Picchu of the north.

Mr Corbera said the walls in the limestone cave near the mummies were covered with paintings of faces and warrior-like figures which may have been drawn to ward off intruders and evil spirits.

"The remote site for this cemetery tells us that the Chachapoyas had enormous respect for their ancestors because they hid them away for protection," Mr Corbera said. "Locals call the cave Iyacyecuj, or Enchanted Water in Quechua, because of its spiritual importance and its underground rivers.

"The idea now is to turn this cave into a museum, but we've got a huge amount of research to do first and protecting the site is a big issue.  http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article1816823.ece

9. Reflections on Finland
In "Brit-Am Now"-767
#3. Marshall Mannerheim Never Referred to Issachar?
http://britam.org/now/767Now.html
we were requested to cease referring the former leader
of Finland, Marshal Mannerheim ever having attributed his
nation's origins to the Tribe of Issachar.
There is in fact at least one anti-Semitic web site
containing an articles  written by someone of Finnish descent
repeating this claim.
http://www.ensignmessage.com/archives/finland.html
We would in fact NOT WANT to belong to the same group as such a person.
As we indicated in our reply at the time we have reasons to believe
that Marshal Mannerheim did make such a statement but will wait for
more evidence before repeating it.
Even if such a statement had have been recorded there is a chance that in the
present climate in order to "protect" the Marshal it would have been deleted.
Finland has helped Israel in the past and at present there is a strong pro-Israel
sentiment amongst many of the Finns.
There is also the opposite. There are some anti-Semites.
The Finnish government and prestigious organizations have given money
to Palestinian terrorist organizations who declare their wish to exterminate the Jews.
The Finns have also heavily subsidized defeatist elements within Israel.
Jewish tradition is burdened enough with liberal sentiment and misplaced feelings of
compassion for the "underdog". The last thing Israel needs is for these elements
to receive outside encouragement!!
Anyway encouragement in the form of generous financial assistance is what they are
getting and they are getting it from Finland and from other European entities.
It seems that Finland in one way or other is obsessed with the question of
Israel. Even if the Finnish interest is misplaced
and sometimes acquires a very negative expression the fact that it exists
may well say something.








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