Brit-Am Now no. 1260
25 November 2008, 27 Cheshvan 5769
Contents:
1. Blessings and Curses, USA and Israel,
use of the Name Israel
2. New BAMBI Recordings
3. New Article:
Why the USA is Manasseh: A Summation
1. Blessings and Curses, USA and Israel,
use of the Name Israel
From: Edward Bradbrooke
RE: Brit-Am Now no. 1259
http://britam.org/now/1259Now.html#Is
#2. Is Brit-Am Anti-American?
Britam appears to be very inconsistent with the name, "Israel." You ought to
stick strictly with the definition found in the Torah and the Tanakh.
The Jewish State is JUDAH, not "Israel." JUDAH does not have ANY Right to use
the name "Israel."
"ISRAEL" IS EPHRAIM & MANASSEH !!!
STOP CONFUSING THE TWO HOUSES WITH YOUR OWN BIASED VIEW.
The USA is not dependent on blessings from Judah. On the Contrary! The blessings
that the USA receives from HaShem are due to the promised Birthright by Yakov
before he died in Egypt. READ GENESIS 48. The USA is MANASSEH.
The curses stem from their disobedience of the Commands HaShem gave. They DO NOT
come from the favour or disfavor of JUDAH.
So, NO, YOU ARE WRONG regarding the USA being dependent upon JUDAH. VERY WRONG.
Without Britain and the USA, the Jewish State would not have been established.
Most of, or all of the money for Judah's Military budget comes from the U.S. and
British governments. Without that support, Judah would languish or perish.
Judah went into disarray like ancient Israel did, so these issues were due to
their stiff-necked disobedience in the face of the Laws of El Shaddai.
It's because of HaShem's blessings on the USA that Judah can be free to exist.
Not the other way around.
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Brit-Am Replies:
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Edward Bradbrooke wrote:
Britam
appears to be very inconsistent with the name, "Israel." You ought to stick
strictly with the definition found in the Torah and the
Tanakh.
The Jewish State is JUDAH, not "Israel." JUDAH does not have ANY Right to use
the name "Israel."
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Brit-Am Reply:
First of all neither in the posting you referred to NOR (as far as I know) in
any other posting
or in any of our writings
do we use the term "Israel" exclusively for Judah.
We sometimes use the term "Israel" when we mean "State of Israel"
but our intention is (or should be) obvious from the context.
In other words you have imputed to us a terminological usage we do not employ.
Nevertheless, just for the record:
Judah is referred to as Israel in several places in Ezekiel as well as in Ezra
and Nehemiah.
Elsewhere Israel in some parts of the Bible can refer ONLY to the Ten Tribes but
this is
usually the case when the term "Israel" is juxtaposed to Judah either expressly
or by implication.
For examples from the Book of Ezekiel where the term "Israel" is used and the
context implies that ONLY
Judah is intended see the Brit-Am Commentary to Ezekiel.
http://britam.org/EzekielContents.html
e.g.
Ezekiel 2:3
AND HE SAID UNTO ME, SON OF MAN, I SEND THEE TO THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL, TO A
REBELLIOUS NATION THAT HATH REBELLED AGAINST ME: THEY AND THEIR FATHERS HAVE
TRANSGRESSED AGAINST ME, EVEN UNTO THIS VERY DAY.
[Ezekiel 3:4] AND HE SAID UNTO ME, SON OF MAN, GO, GET THEE UNTO THE HOUSE OF
ISRAEL, AND SPEAK WITH MY WORDS UNTO THEM.
[Ezekiel 3:7] BUT THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL WILL NOT HEARKEN UNTO THEE; FOR THEY WILL
NOT HEARKEN UNTO ME: FOR ALL THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL ARE IMPUDENT AND HARDHEARTED.
From the context Ezekiel is here referring to the Exiles of Judah in
Babylon.
[Ezekiel 4:13] AND THE LORD SAID, EVEN THUS SHALL THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL EAT
THEIR DEFILED BREAD AMONG THE GENTILES, WHITHER I WILL DRIVE THEM.
Here too from the context it seems that Judah is intended.
[Ezekiel 5:4] THEN TAKE OF THEM AGAIN, AND CAST THEM INTO THE MIDST OF THE FIRE,
AND BURN THEM IN THE FIRE; FOR THEREOF SHALL A FIRE COME FORTH INTO ALL THE
HOUSE OF ISRAEL.
Here the indication is that the prophecy concerns all the House of Israel (i.e.
including the Ten Tribes) but the specifics seem to indicate primarily Jerusalem
of Judah.
[Ezekiel 6:2] SON OF MAN, SET THY FACE TOWARD THE MOUNTAINS OF ISRAEL, AND
PROPHESY AGAINST THEM,
Even though Ezekiel uses the expression ?Israel? according to the simple context
the Prophet is referring to Judah just before the Babylonian Exile.
[Ezekiel 8:6] HE SAID FURTHERMORE UNTO ME, SON OF MAN, SEEST THOU WHAT THEY DO?
EVEN THE GREAT ABOMINATIONS THAT THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL COMMITTETH HERE, THAT I
SHOULD GO FAR OFF FROM MY SANCTUARY? BUT TURN THEE YET AGAIN, AND THOU SHALT
SEE GREATER ABOMINATIONS.
Here Ezekiel is referring to elders of the House of judah who were worshipping
idols. He calls them HOUSE OF ISRAEL.
These are a few examples from the beginning of the Book of Ezekiel.
Many more examples may be found throughout Ezekiel.
See also the Books of Ezra and Nehemiah.
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Edward Bradbrooke wrote:
"ISRAEL" IS EPHRAIM & MANASSEH !!!
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Brit-Am Reply:
Not Quite.
Please quote just ONE EXAMPLE where this applies.
The term Israel in the Bible applies to one of the following:
a. All of the 12 twelve tribes.
b. All of the other tribes as opposed to Judah.
b. all of the northern ten tribes when recalled in juxtaposition to the tribes
of "Judah" (Judah, Benjamin, Levi,
and minority proportions of the others).
c. In some cases Israel refers to the entity of Judah i.e. descendants of the
southern kingdom.
d. Israel is also the name of the Land of Israel and of the State of Israel.
Everything must be judged by its context.
Each prophet has his own style and peculiar usage that does not necessarily
apply elsewhere.
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Edward Bradbrooke wrote:
STOP CONFUSING THE TWO HOUSES WITH
YOUR OWN BIASED VIEW.
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Brit-Am Reply:
The bias apparently is not exclusively ours.
Before judging us please read what we write more carefully.
When making claims from the Bible please endeavor to show sources.
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Edward Bradbrooke wrote:
The USA is not dependent on blessings
from Judah.
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Brit-Am Reply:
The USA is dependent on blessings from the Almighty.
These blessings to some degree in our time may be contingent on the attitude
towards Judah and the State of Israel.
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Edward Bradbrooke wrote:
On the Contrary! The
blessings that the USA receives from
HaShem
are due to the promised Birthright by
Yakov
before he died in Egypt.
READ GENESIS 48. The USA is MANASSEH.
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Brit-Am Reply:
We also say that the USA is Manasseh.
These blessings to some degree were irrevocable.
See:
http://www.britam.org/GeneaologyofBlessings.html#IRREVERSIBLE
Extract:
The Blessings Are IRREVERSIBLE.
They could not be annulled for reason of the promise given to Abraham, "By
myself hath I sworn saith the Lord...That in blessing I will bless thee and in
multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven, and as the sand
which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the Gate of his enemies"
(Genesis 22:16-17).
Again the irrevocability of the promises was repeated to Jacob.
[Genesis 28:14]...
Even so the Blessings were also given for a PURPOSE.
The continuation of the Blessings and their intensity is dependent on the
fulfillment of certain goals
and on our behavior.
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Edward Bradbrooke wrote:
The curses stem from their
disobedience of the Commands
HaShem gave. They DO NOT come
from the favour
or disfavour
of JUDAH.
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Brit-Am Reply:
No-one spoke of favor or disfavor of Judah.
We spoke of the Will of the Almighty as determined by the Bible.
Obedience to the Will of the Almighty includes support for the State of Israel.
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Edward Bradbrooke wrote:
So, NO, YOU ARE WRONG regarding the
USA being dependent upon JUDAH. VERY WRONG. Without Britain and the USA, the
Jewish State would not have been established.
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Brit-Am Reply:
True to some degree. Yet on the other hand Britain changed her mind and if Judah
had not applied force and taken the initiative
against the will of Britain and possibly also that of the USA at the time then
too the State of Israel would not have been established.
If Israel had have listened to the USA in the past it would not exist at
present.
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Edward Bradbrooke wrote:
Most of, or all of the money for
Judah's Military budget comes from the U.S. and British governments. Without
that support, Judah would languish or perish.
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Brit-Am Reply:
It might be difficult. Who knows?
Be thankful that you have merited to assist in fulfilling the will of the
Almighty.
In Israel today there are 5 million Jews. Israel has little resources of its own
and has existed for only 60 years.
The USA has 305 million people, vast resources, and has existed for more than
200 years.
The total population of Israel (ca. 7 million) is less than that of the State of
Virginia and the total Jewish population
is about the same as that of Minnesota or Colorado.
There are as many (or possibly much more) Jews and people of Jewish descent in
the USA as there are in Israel
and the Jews in the USA have had more material and educational opportunities
than those in Israel.
That is apart from the numerous Israelites from the Lost Ten tribes also present
in the US population.
The USA backed the State of Israel and still does. It gets its money's worth.
Israel has made a good account of itself and contributed to the Defence of the
West, to research,
innovation, and the military preparedness of the USA.
Israel also fulfills Biblical Promises and keeps awareness of the Bible alive
and actual.
The strength of the USA is due to its Biblical awareness.
On this count alone every cent the USA ever gave to Israel was worth it.
The USA backed a winner. Do not belittle it.
Israel could do even more if the USA would let it.
See:
Why The State of Israel
Should be Supported!
http://www.britam.org/SupportIsrael.html
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Edward Bradbrooke wrote:
Judah went into disarray like ancient
Israel did, so these issues were due to their stiff-necked disobedience in the
face of the Laws of El Shaddai.
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Brit-Am Reply:
Judah is not perfect and nobody claimed it was.
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Edward Bradbrooke wrote:
It's because of
HaShem's
blessings on the USA that Judah can be free to exist. Not the other way
around.
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Brit-Am Reply:
The USA in our opinion has received an extra blessing and an extension of favor
by virtue of its assistance to the
Jews and to the State of Israel.
Great Rabbis (including the Chofetz Chaim) have said that the USA has been
blessed because of its "big heart", its acts of kindness to
others and its support for the State of Israel.
Read more carefully what Brit-Am has said in the past on this subject.
Please do not impute to Brit-Am opinions and attitudes it does not have.
2. New BAMBI Recordings
Why the USA is Manasseh: A Summation
http://britam.org/Broadcasts/newBAMBI/USManasseh.mp3
(ca. 17 minutes)
Psalm One Hundred and Nineteen (16) Ayin
http://britam.org/Broadcasts/newBAMBI/psalm119-16.mp3
(ca. 23 minutes)
Jeremiah: Highlights: Part One
http://britam.org/Broadcasts/newBAMBI/JeremiahHighlights.mp3
(ca. 1 hour 18 minutes)
For text on which this talk is based see:
Jeremiah Highlights
http://www.britam.org/JeremiahHighlights.html
3. New Article:
Why the USA is Manasseh: A Summation
http://www.britam.org/USAManasseh.html
Headings:
The USA is Manasseh because:
Tribal Demography
Manasseh was to become great AFTER Ephraim!
Manasseh Represents Responsible Representation
America is Named after Machir first-born son of Manasseh
Capitalism
Yank and Jacob
The Presidential System
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