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Brit-Am Now no. 1179
Date 28 Sivan 5768 1 July 2008
Contents:
1. Jon Tillotson: Question on Transfer of Arabs and Brit-Am Reply
2.
Avraham ben Gad
First "Recognition", then "let the Almighty look after the reconciliation"!
3. Khazar History in Pictures-Interesting Maps



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1. Jon Tillotson: Question on Transfer of Arabs and Brit-Am Reply
<jon_tillotson@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

 

Dear Yair,
I was wondering what your thoughts might be about the below link on Brit Am

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3559045,00.html which seems to suggest that most (admittedly Israeli Palestinians) Arabs in Israel would rather live in the existing Jewish state than any other; which means therefore any of their surrounding Muslim neighbour states. And I was wondering how your thoughts on this article ( do you believe the findings?) might relate to Brit Am's stated desire to see the Palestians forceably expelled from Eretz Israel? That is if I understand Brit Am correctly. To be frank, as a Christian, I cannot help having deep personal and moral problems and reservations about this position, given that my God commands me to love all people, not just Israelites.

Another thing. Do you think that The Christian Palestinians in The West Bank are significantly any less hostile to The Sate of Israel than the Muslim Palestinians? Have any noteworthy studies been done on this question?

Best Wishes and enjoy the summer
Jonathan



Brit-Am Reply:
I am not sure how reliable the survey was.
Let us assume that it is correct.
Israeli Arabs are capable of holding many different attitudes that to an outsider may seem contradictory.
They may support Palestinian terrorism yet still prefer to live in Israel under Jewish Rule.
Numerous surveys consistently show that the Palestinians and Israeli Arabs all support terror, yet how reliable are they?
Every single terrorist is traced by Israeli intelligence sooner or later and usually sooner.
Most of this information is given by Arab informants who risk their lives and the wellbeing of their families to get this information to the Israeli authorities. Very often they receive little or no reward for their efforts.
Sometimes barely a thank-you.
At other times they do receive money, protection, governmental favors, etc, etc, but the rewards do not explain much of the effort and self-sacrifice entailed.
Nevertheless experience shows that if Israel weakens and if God forbid the Arabs were to overrun the State of Israel then at least some of the informers and collaborators would enthusiastically participate in the Arab orgy of killing, rapine, torture, and looting that would follow.

This attitude may be partly inbred or it may be partly cultural and historical.
The ancestors of many of us in Europe did not necessarily always act in a more civilized manner.
Whatever  the cause may be, it is a reality.

My opinion on the matter of transfer Arabs is my own personal one.
Most people (even in Israel) might not agree with it though 66% of the Jews in Israel (according to another survey) may be sympathetic to encouraging Arab emigration.

Let us take it from the top.
Many Arabs want to leave but have difficulty in doing so.
 34% of Palestinians want to leave already
www.neareastconsulting.com
 80% of Gaza Residents Considering Emigrating
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/125903

We would suggest that at first all those who want to leave be assisted to do so.
Elements amongst them that violently oppose their leaving should be neutralized.
Those who wish to leave should be given financial assistance and whatever else may facilitate their passage.
After they have gone elsewhere assuming that their re-settlement is successful they will probably have established alternate communities, connections, etc.  This will encourage others to come after them and make it even easier for them.
This should be a beginning.
I do not consider this inhumane, just the opposite.
Say theoretically,
You may have a neighbor with a problem.
The problem may be you or your children or your spouse, things you cannot change.
You do not get along with your neighbor. He does not like you or yours. Neither does his family.
You cannot live together though both of you may have proven abilities to live elsewhere with other neighbors more of your own type. In such a situation it would seem that either you or your problematic neighbor would be better off moving away.
If your neighbor is violent, cannot control himself, and putting him in jail will not work then one or other of you moving may well be the only sane solution.
Would you prefer to be killed or have to kill in self-defense?

The idea of emigration of Arabs out of Israel does not necessarily mean that tomorrow morning it goes into effect but rather that the principle is accepted and put into practice at the right time without delay.
You asked about the Christian Palestinians being significantly less hostile to the Jews than the Muslims.
I am not too familiar with this.
I do not know of any studies having been made but chances are that quite a few have been.
This is a land of studies, surveys, and the like.
It could be that numerous studies have been made but perhaps they are not widely published so as not to give the Muslims additional reasons to victimize the Christian Palestinians?
First of all the Christian Palestinians are suffering terribly from their Arab Muslim neighbors.
Talking with them reveals a growing hatred and resentment of the Muslims.
Many of them admire the Jews and even identify with them.
They are more educated and westernized though their social structure etc and values etc are often those of the Middle East.
Arabic is their mother tongue and some  degree of identification with the Arab cause also exists.
Some of the leading Arab terrorists (in the past and also at present, though to a lesser degree) have been Christian Palestinians.

Here is an extract from a pro-Palestinian writer on the subject:
"Israel's Purging of Palestinian Christians" by Jonathan Cook
http://www.irishrepublican.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6372&page=21
##Inside Israel, for example, Christians have been the backbone of the Communist party, the only non-Zionist party Israel allowed for several decades. Many of the Palestinian artists and intellectuals who are most critical of Israel are Christians, including the late novelist Emile
Habibi; the writer Anton Shammas and film-makers Elia Suleiman and Hany Abu Assad (all now living in exile); and the journalist Antoine Shalhat (who, for reasons unknown, has been placed under a loose house arrest, unable to leave Israel).

##The most notorious Palestinian nationalist politician inside Israel is Azmi Bishara, yet another Christian, who has been put on trial and is regularly abused by his colleagues in the Knesset.

##Similarly, Christians have been at the core of the wider secular Palestinian national movement, helping to define its struggle. They range from exiled professors such as the late Edward Said to human rights activists in the occupied territories such as Raja Shehadeh. The founders of the most militant wings of the national movement, the Democratic and Popular Fronts for the Liberation of Palestine, were Nayif Hawatmeh and George Habash, both Christians.

Despite the above, most Christian Palestinians nowadays clearly prefer Jews if only because they remain wealthier and much much healthier when Jews are around.
The feeling is however that they could also turn against the Jews if it was to their advantage or even if it was not.
Most of them are Greek Orthodox, some Catholic, some Maronite, also a smattering of Anglicans, Presbyterians, Lutherans, etc.
It varies according to what Christian sect is under consideration.
We think the solution should be to send the Palestinians to somewhere in the West.
This is based on our understanding of
Isaiah 11:14
http://www.britam.org/isaiah/Isaiah11to15.html
"THEY [Ephraim and Judah together Isaiah 11:13] SHALL FLY THE PHILISTINES AWAY WESTWARD".
F
lying indicates sending them some distance away from the Land of Israel.
An alternative might be in a future war with Egypt (which could occur any time now) to force Egypt as part of a Peace settlement to take in all the Arabs of Israel, allow them to assimilate to Egypt society (many of them descend from Egyptians and have relatives in Egypt already) and then later perhaps help Egypt economically in consideration of its co-operation even if we do not give them much choice in the matter.
On the other hand,
Dell Griffin pointed to the following verses:

[Zechariah 9:6] AND A BASTARD SHALL DWELL IN ASHDOD, AND I WILL CUT OFF THE PRIDE OF THE PHILISTINES.

[Zechariah 9:7] AND I WILL TAKE AWAY HIS BLOOD OUT OF HIS MOUTH, AND HIS ABOMINATIONS FROM BETWEEN HIS TEETH: BUT HE THAT REMAINETH, EVEN HE, SHALL BE FOR OUR GOD, AND HE SHALL BE AS A GOVERNOR IN JUDAH, AND EKRON AS A JEBUSITE.

Dell Griffin understands these verses to indicate that the Palestinians can be tamed and made acceptable.
http://www.torah-voice.org/Biblical%20road%20map.htm
We disagree strongly and would not quote him but he has a viewpoint.
Seeing is believing and stranger things have happened.

Another point is that,
we may be forbidden by the Bible to allow the Palestinians to remain here and the most humane solution may indeed be their voluntary emigration that we should encourage.

There are commandments to conquer the land, to expel the non-Israelite heathen from the land, and not to allow foreigners to rule over Israelites especially not in the land.
All of these commandments may be qualified and dependent on secondary conditions.
Nevertheless in principle they remain in effect even now.



2. Avraham ben Gad: 
First "Recognition", then "let the Almighty look after the reconciliation"!

Shalom Yair,
I meant to respond to one of your previous emails. You made the comment that Brit Am should have "Recognition" as one of its goals instead of "Reconciliation," and let the Almighty look after the reconciliation.  That made a lot of sense to me, and while Brit Am is significantly active in the way of Recognition, Reconciliation is really an indirect byproduct. Your comment was clarifying Brit Am's mission statement in my mind.

I trust your plans to visit the US are going well. I still want to help.

Abraham


Brit-Am Reply:
The importance of "recognition" instead of, or as a prelude to, Reconciliation was actually first broached by Leah Todd.
Brit-Am Now no. 1168
#2. Leah: Reactions to Brit-Am Comments on Noachide Movement
http://www.britam.org/now/1168Now.html#Leah
You both have a point.
We should perhaps concentrate on both Judah and Joseph being made to recognize the Israelite Ancestry of Joseph.
After that the two sides may work out their own solutions as to how to deal with it.
This does not mean that we have to abandon Reconciliation altogether just change the emphasis a little.



3. Khazar History in Pictures-Interesting Maps
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